Warning: This post contains spoilers for “Landman” Season 2, Episode 2. Please proceed accordingly.
The Norris family’s cycle of generational trauma took a major hit in Sunday’s “Landman,” thanks to a heartfelt conversation that takes place after Cooper and Tommy’s quick-yet-contentious visit with T.L.
After making arrangements for Tommy’s mother’s funeral, and apprising Tommy’s dad, T.L. of the plan, the two younger Norris men rode back to Midland in silence. Tommy was the first to speak when he started musing about how the custody situation he and Angela had when Cooper was a kid probably worked out in Cooper’s favor, given that it limited Tommy’s chances to mess up his young son. “I wasn’t raised to father a son,” Tommy says, adding that the tendency for fathers to repeat their fathers’ mistakes is a common and near-unbreakable pattern. But Cooper disagrees.
“I love you, Dad,” he says, pointing out that Tommy didn’t beat him the way T.L. hit Tommy. “You did your best, and your best is good enough for me.” Tommy, overcome, says nothing but blinks away tears as he steers the truck down the highway. (Read a full Episode 2 recap here.)
Naturally, I wanted to go deep on the moment when I recently talked with the Paramount+ series’ cast. In the video above, Billy Bob Thornton discusses whether Tommy had previously considered whether he was doing a better job than his own pop.
“I think he certainly hopes he has,” Thornton says, adding with a chuckle: “When you’re spending that much time in a truck, you think a lot.”
As for T.L., Sam Elliott says Episode 2 represents a hope that the older man never thought he’d get. “He’s living his life just full of regret, that he pined away for his wife forever, dedicated his life waiting for her to come back,” he says. “And at the same time, for sure, he’s the father of a son. A failed father of a son. That definitely laid waste to him on some deep, personal level.” Meanwhile, Lofland — whose own father died in 2024 — recalls that he and Thornton drew on some “raw emotions” regarding their dads to make the scene feel true.
But it’s not all heavy family drama, I promise: Later in the video, new series regular Andy Garcia and Lofland break down Cooper’s deal with the devil, er, Gallino; and Elliott gives us a scoop about an upcoming Norris family dinner (and how he got through it).
Press PLAY on the video above to watch it all, then hit the comments with your thoughts about “Landman” Season 2, Episode 2!
As restaurant lovers debate whether Masa will survive its Michelin guide demotion from three stars to two, real estate-watchers are asking: Can the Deutsche Bank Center “Restaurant Collection” regain its past glory, which was based on its unique pair of three-star eateries?
While other dining venues came and went at the shopping and dining mall inside the former Time Warner Center — V Steakhouse, Cafe Gray, Landmarc, A Voce, Bluebird London and most recently steakhouse Porter House — the longevity of its three-star establishments on the fourth floor, Masa and Thomas Keller’s Per Se, lent the complex culinary creds even among New Yorkers who disdain malls.
Although Quality Branded’s Bad Roman and Twin Tails have juiced the still lively third floor, an eerie sense of loss pervades the fourth floor, where Porter House and its sister cafe Center Bar closed after Labor Day.
Masa is facing an uncertain future in the wake of it losing one of its Michelin stars. Angel Chevrestt
A rep for Related Companies, the tower’s developer and the mall’s operator, declined to comment. A source said sprawling Center Bar might reopen as early as next month under different management.
Meanwhile, Masa itself faces an uncertain future, industry sources said.
Chef Masayoshi Takayama’s 26-seat omakase spot risks losing at least 25% of its business once its current reservation list runs out, according to one restaurateur who knows well the damage that a lost Michelin star can cost.
“It won’t happen overnight, but Masa will be hurt,” the insider said. He said that while Michelin stars matter less to New Yorkers than do local reviewers — and even social-media influencers — they remain the last word for many European and Asian visitors who regard the “red book” as gospel and chose where to eat in New York entirely on the basis of Michelin stars.
Masa reigned atop the sushi scene since the building opened in 2009. But it was upstaged in the just-out 2026 New York City guide, which upped 18-month-old Sush Sho to three twinklers from two.
The longevity of its three-star establishments on the fourth floor, Masa and Thomas Keller’s Per Se, lent the Deutsche Bank Center culinary creds even among New Yorkers who disdain malls. Bloomberg via Getty Images
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Sushi Sho’s menu starts at a “mere” $450 per person, compared with the.$750 minimum at Masa.
Masa’s perch at the top of the omakase spectrum was also damaged by competition from other expensive omakase eateries in the past ten years, all boasting of precious fish and other ingredients flown in from Japanese markets.
The omakase explosion also saw a flood of cheaper options open all over town — even including one called Sushi Akira that replaced a dry cleaner on this reporter’s East 75th Street block.
Power publicist and voracious omakase-eater Lizzie Grubman, who doesn’t represent any omakase restaurants, commented, “There are so many good places now where you don’t have to spend hundreds of dollars just to sit at a counter. Many fantastic places cost under $100 whether you sit at the counter or a table.”
Yes, “left parties, including the Democratic Party, have succeeded in building strong bases among the educated and professional classes,” thereby capturing “cultural production.”
But this prompted these parties, once “suspicious of uncontrolled immigration,” to welcome it. And that “has been a massive failure,” alienating the old working-class base.
Rather than centering “economic growth,” the 21st century left promotes “fighting climate change, reducing inequality, procedural justice, and protecting immigrants and identity groups,” while also embracing “techno-pessimism.”
The left “has squandered enormous political capital on a 21st project that has largely failed.” After 25 years, it’s “time to try something new.”
Libertarian: Education Dept. Should Close
Team Trump is “moving forward” on “shutting down the Department of Education,” announcing last week that its “core functions would be handed off to other agencies,” cheers Robby Soave at The Hill.
This “really spooks liberal Democrats, even though it’s far less radical an idea than they are willing to admit,” since “the Constitution does not grant the federal government any power to regulate education.”
Plus, “the department doesn’t employ any teachers, or manage any classrooms, or interact with students in any direct ways.”
It does “oversee grant money” for K-12, but “only about 10 percent” of what those schools receive.
It also runs “the student loan program,” which “needs to be scrapped anyway,” since we “have ample evidence that subsidizing student loans at the federal level is causing runaway tuition inflation.”
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Conservative: Zoh’s Base Wants Campus Chaos
Zohran Mamdani “pledged to address ‘repression’ on campus,” citing professors fired “for the crime of expressing solidarity with the fight for Palestinian human rights,” observes Stu Smith at City Journal.
Now, “militant faculty unions” are “plotting” to pressure him “to reinstate four fired City University of New York professors.”
As mayor, “Mamdani will have no formal authority over CUNY’s hiring and firing decisions,” but still have major leverage.
“If Mamdani allows CUNY to rehire these professors, it could mean the return of the Student Intifada of spring 2024.”
The mayor -elect must ask himself if he plans to “spend political capital to reinstate professors who have become symbols of a deeply polarizing cause” or risk “alienating” the activists who “crowned him their champion.”
Iconoclast: Epstein Obsessives Channel QAnon
Though “confronted” by “giant issues,” “America’s political class” has “decided to obsess” over Jeffrey Epstein, fumes The New York Times’ David Brooks, largely because “it pays to focus on topics that are salacious, are easy to understand and allow you to offer self-confident opinions with no actual knowledge.”
The “QAnon mentality,” assuming “the American elite is totally evil and that American institutions are totally corrupt,” has infected political culture and left it “awash in distrust, cynicism, catastrophizing lies and conspiracymongering.”
Even supposedly enlightened Democrats like Rep. Ro Khanna now babble about the “Epstein class” of “rich and powerful men” who “abuse” young girls.
“Say what you will about our financial, educational, nonprofit and political elites, but they are not mass rapists.”
Terror beat: CAIR’s ‘Bucks’ for College Hamasniks
“The shocking barbarity of the Hamas-led Palestinian attacks on Israeli civilians” on Oct. 7, 2023 stirred the Council on American-Islamic Relations to drop “its mainstream, moderate façade,” thunders Commentary’s Seth Mandel, and embrace “grotesque, indefensible stuff” that led the Biden adminstration to condemn “the terror supporters.”
Now Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has designated CAIR, “an unindicted coconspirator in a 2007 terrorism-financing case, as a terrorist organization.”
New research reveals that “CAIR has been subsidizing pro-Hamas violence on campus,” while California CAIR affiliates “raised more than $100,000 in donations for campus radicals,” including “$20,000 in loans and scholarships to 20 student protestors from the ‘Champions of Justice Fund.’”
Dua Lipa glows like sunshine in her latest Instagram photos, clad in a green butterfly-patterned bikini with black detailing. She shared a series of snapshots from Rio, but one image stood out, where she posed in a green bikini set featuring a bold butterfly wing print with a matching cover-up.
Dua Lipa wows in butterfly-patterned bikini in new photos
Take a look at Dua Lipa’s bold and beautiful butterfly-patterned bikini:
Lipa is making the best out of her Radical Optimism Tour in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The “One Kiss” singer shared an Instagram carousel, capturing her time in Rio, clad in a variety of chic outfits. One standout shot shows her in a green bikini with a bold butterfly wing print. The top had thin straps and featured micro cups, while the bottoms accentuated Lipa’s features.
The bikini came with a matching cover-up, adding playfulness to the look. She accessorized it with delicate earrings and black sunglasses. The swimwear radiated pure “Brazil vacation” energy, perfectly reflecting Lipa’s signature minimalist style.
Some problems go beyond politics. Political polarization and a lack of agreement on the basic moral sense of right and wrong are two different things. One of the reasons why Trump has been able to establish a tyranny of the minority is that he has followed the Fox News playbook of destroying the basic foundational truths of the nation.
One of the most dangerous things that the president and his party have done since returning to power in 2025 came in the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk shooting, when Trump and his allies tried to use the killing of Kirk to turn political violence into a debatable partisan issue.
Trump and his allies blamed Democrats for Kirk’s death and falsely claimed that their political opponents were the cause of political violence in the United States.
As Donald Trump does with most things, he overplayed his hand on the Kirk shooting, and after a week or so, the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk was forgotten. Trump seemed jealous of the attention that Kirk was getting in death and pushed the media to change the subject.
After Trump called for the execution of congressional Democrats who urged the military not to follow illegal orders, one of those Democrats, Sen. Mark Kelly appeared on CBS’s Face The Nation.
Kelly said that he is facing increased threats because of Trump:
What the president said is very serious. I didn’t think he would step over the, over that line calling for the execution of members of Congress and his words carry tremendous weight more so than anybody else in the country, and he should be aware of that.
And because of what he says there is now increased threats against us.
While succession plans are underway, an earlier report that said that Tim Cook would announce his retirement timeline before WWDC 2026 is being called false.
Apple CEO Tim Cook isn’t retiring just yet
When the Financial Timesmade the claim that Apple CEO Tim Cook would announce the succession plan to be replaced by John Ternus in early 2026, the AppleInsider team was skeptical at best. It was clear Cook and many others in the executive team could retire in the next five years, but Cook’s departure seems the furthest out.
According to the Power On newsletter, the report suggesting a transition would be announced is outright incorrect. Not only is it not accurate, but it doesn’t seem to be seeded directly from Apple either.
In the starting lineup, coming off the bench or even on the pickleball court, Marcus Smart knows he can deliver what the Lakers need. So LeBron James’ return and the question of how it could affect his role isn’t slowing down Smart.
“I like to [think of] myself as a Swiss Army knife,” Smart said Saturday as the Lakers prepared for a game at Utah on Sunday. “It’s not one thing I do great, but I do everything very well. … People come back, people get hurt. People have great games, have bad games. You have to adjust to whatever the game is calling for at that moment.”
With four days to regroup after James made his long-awaited season debut, the Lakers (11-4) want to continue their strong start. Smart had started nine times in a row before James’ return. Smart then played a season-low 17 minutes in Tuesday’s 140-126 win against the Jazz at home, scoring five points with three rebounds. He made just two shots, but coach JJ Redick commended Smart’s play off the bench along with the performances of Jake LaRavia, Jaxson Hayes and Gabe Vincent.
Vincent returned from a sprained ankle that cost him 11 games to score six points on two-for-three shooting from three-point range. LaRavia led the bench group with 16 points and four rebounds. He was six for 10 from the field, including two three-pointers.
Signing as a free agent this offseason, LaRavia knew getting to play with James was part of the deal. He had to wait through training camp, the preseason and 14 games to get his wish, but it was worth it. The 24-year-old LaRavia, who was five days shy of his second birthday when James made his NBA debut, knocked down a first-quarter shot off a James assist.
“It was dope to finally get on the court with him,” LaRavia said. “He brings something to this team that I don’t think we really had. It’s another level of passing ability that he’s able to do, and just the force he is on offense in transition and just when he has the ball in his hands.”
The Lakers entered Sunday tied for the second-fewest transition possessions per game but they’ve been picking up the pace. Through the first nine games the team was scoring 9.5% of its points in transition. That mark ticked up to 13.4% in the last five games.
Utah (5-10) is one of the fastest teams, averaging 102.6 possessions per game. With pace increasing over the years, the heavier workloads have made minor soft-tissue injuries unfortunate realities in the NBA. They also make extended breaks between games, like the four-day reprieve the Lakers had last week, a major luxury.
In between much-needed rest and efficient practice sessions for a team that has been fully healthy for only a week, the Lakers also used the time for team bonding in the form of a trash-talk-filled pickleball tournament.
Smart and Redick and a third teammate, head video coordinator Michael Wexler — whom Redick anonymously accused of eating during the entire tournament — went to the semifinals. They lost to Luka Doncic and player development coach Ty Abbott. LaRavia and assistant coach Beau Levesque won the championship. Redick raised questions about the fairness of the team pairings.
As with everything involving ultracompetitive athletes, even the innocent pickleball games got heated. Smart was trying to be mindful to not push his limits too much.
“The last thing I need to get out and do is roll my ankle trying to play pickleball,” said Smart, who said he would rather play tennis.
It was still a welcome break from the monotony of the season, Redick said. He graded the experience an A.
“We got through this week without wanting to kill each other,” Redick said with a smirk.
Etc.
Center Deandre Ayton missed practice Saturday because of an illness. He was expected to join the team on the trip to Utah.
The Department of Government Efficiency plowed through federal spending and payrolls earlier this year, but it has since disappeared with top officials now working in other federal offices, according to Reuters.
DOGE, which was once led by Elon Musk, had previously made controversial cuts, such as its high-profile effort to slash foreign aid. By contrast, its end slipped under the radar and came with eight months still left on its charter, the report said.
“That doesn’t exist,” Office of Personnel Management Director Scott Kupor told Reuters when asked about DOGE’s status, adding that it’s no longer a “centralized entity.”
OPM has assumed many of DOGE’s functions, according to Kupor and documentsreviewed by Reuters.
“The truth is: DOGE may not have centralized leadership under @USDS. But, the principles of DOGE remain alive and well: de-regulation; eliminating fraud, waste and abuse; re-shaping the federal workforce; making efficiency a first-class citizen; etc. DOGE catalyzed these changes; the agencies along with @USOPM and @WHOMB will institutionalize them!” he wrote on X, referring to his office and the White House budget office.
In a blog post on Friday detailing federal headcount plans, he said the government hired roughly 68,000 people this year, while 317,000 employees left the government—outperforming Trump’s goal for four reductions for every one new hire.
He added that “there are no prescribed reductions in headcount.” And rather than the number of full-time employees, the focus instead is on “great service delivery with maximum efficiency.”
Meanwhile, DOGE officials have taken positions elsewhere in the federal government, such as the State Department, White House budget office, Department of Health and Human Services, and the Office of Naval Research, Reuters said.
That includes Airbnb cofounder Joe Gebbia, who went from DOGE to the National Design Studio, a new office where he will help beautify government websites.
Then there’s Musk, who vowed to cut spending by $2 trillion and declared in February that DOGE is “the chainsaw for bureaucracy.”
After serving as one of Trump’s closest advisers, the Tesla CEO engaged in a stunning public feud with the president in June over his tax-and-spending bill.
It appeared Musk would be out in the cold for good, but he has recently re-entered Trump’s orbit. In September, they appeared together at Charlie Kirk’s memorial service. And earlier this month, Musk attended a White House dinner for Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
And the Partnership for Public Service, a nonpartisan nonprofit that focuses on the federal workforce, said DOGE’s cuts also incur related costs, resulting in minimal net savings.
Those costs don’t include legal expenses for fighting multiple lawsuits challenging DOGE’s cuts or the lost tax revenue from IRS staff layoffs.
“This is an effort that was created to address waste, but we were seeing the opposite,” PPS President Max Stier told CBS in April.
The Rolls-Royce Holdings (LSE: RR.) share price has painted one of the brightest pictures in the UK investment landscape. It’s up 90% in the past 12 months and more than 900% over five years.
It dipped a bit recently though, down 13% since September’s 52-week high. But the shares are really only back where they were in August.
If we might be in for a cooling-off period, I can think of three key dangers.
Cyclical aviation demand
A civil aviation crash triggered the Rolls-Royce share price collapse in the wake of the pandemic. The proud British aerospace firm even faced threat of collapse, under the weight of mounting debt.
The other side has been a very strong recovery in the past few years. And more than actual engine sales, the years of service and maintenance Rolls-Royce provides really brings in the cash.
But I can’t help wondering if demand might have reached a peak. Coupled with the cost of developing new engines, I fear markets might have built still more into the share price than we’ll actually see.
Military aviation demand has also helped push the Rolls share price. But demand growth there will surely also slow to a steady level some day. And maybe even decline from a peak.
Global threats
I can also see Rolls-Royce possibly facing various international challenges in the next decade. It’s heavily reliant on global trade for the parts and materials it buys. And right now, there are all kinds of threats, from rising prices to trade wars and export controls.
Civil aviation in particular faces regulatory risk too. Tackling the effects of climate change has gone out of fashion a bit. But the need to address it will surely come back to bite. And I can see a future of pressure on aero engine emissions and rising costs of research into cleaner power.
Rolls-Royce is developing hydrogen engines. But they’re still some way from commercial production.
Nuclear power
Rolls’ development of small modular reactors (SMRs) is surely one of the highlights of its future. The UK Government has recently given the green light for the country’s first SMR power station. To be built at Wylfa on Anglesey, it could eventually house up to eight reactors.
But here’s my fear. Too much of the future profits might already be built into the Rolls-Royce share price.
There’s going to be a lot more development cash needed before Rolls sees the SMR division turn profitable. In fact, at interim time in July, CEO Tufan Erginbilgiç said he doesn’t expect to see profit and positive cash flow until 2030.
And if we really do see an AI bubble burst, well… powering data centres is where many investors see those SMRs in big demand.
Time to bail?
I’m not predicting a Rolls-Royce share price collapse. No, I just think we need to be mindful of the risks rather than only seeing the profit possibilities.
We might well see more share price weakness. But I still rate Rolls-Royce as one for long-term growth investors to consider. And if I can buy some a bit cheaper in the coming months…
The Rams’ famed defensive line of the 1960s, which featured ends Deacon Jones and Lamar Lundy and tackles Merlin Olsen and Rosey Grier, terrorized opposing quarterbacks.
During an October fashion shoot, Verse, the Rams’ 25-year-old star edge rusher, met Grier, at 93 the only living member of the Fearsome Foursome.
“It was crazy, not just to see a living legend but somebody that played at a high level in the league,” Verse said. “To be able to meet him and sit down with him, it was cool.”
Grier also welcomed the opportunity to meet Verse, the reigning NFL defensive rookie of the year.
“I was very impressed with his countenance, courtesy and respect toward me,” Grier said in an email.
Verse, edge rusher Byron Young and defensive ends Kobie Turner and Braden Fiske showed their respect for the Fearsome Foursome over the summer.
Fiske said the linemen had seen a famous photo of the Fearsome Foursome in a social media post. During the Rams’ media day in June, the players made an impromptu request to recreate it.
The Rams’ “Fearsome Foursome” of the 1960s (from left to right) Lamar Lundy, Rosey Grier, Merlin Olsen and Deacon Jones.
(Los Angeles Rams)
“The coolest part about it is we’re talking about that group 50 to 60 years later,” Fiske said. “I mean, that’s unbelievable. … For a whole group to make their mark is something that is still considered one of the best is something we chase.”
The Rams’ young front is making its mark.
Turner was a finalist for NFL defensive rookie of the year in 2023. Verse won the award last season, and Fiske was a finalist.
Young, a third-year pro, has nine sacks this season, tied for sixth most in the NFL.
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Gary Klein previews Sunday’s game between the Rams and Tampa Bay Buccaneers at SoFi Stadium.
“We know we’re in a group that’s feared and will continue to be feared because of the work we put in and what we show on Sundays,” Turner said.
During the offseason, to bolster the run defense, the Rams signed veteran nose tackle Poona Ford. The front also includes Tyler Davis, Larrell Murchison, Nick Hampton and rookies Josaiah Stewart and Ty Hamilton.
“It’s a group that’s really connected,” coach Sean McVay said, adding, “The way they bring our style of play to life, it’s really fun to be around.”
San Francisco 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan noted before the Nov. 9 game between the teams that the Rams’ “front five, the guys they keep on the line of scrimmage usually is probably the best in the NFL.”
Future Hall of Fame defensive lineman Aaron Donald, a three-time NFL defensive player of the year for the Rams, will be honored before and during the Sunday game. Donald has been impressed by the young front’s play.
The Rams rank ninth in the league with 27 sacks, according to Pro-Football-Reference.com. They are tied for sixth with 98 quarterback pressures and seventh with 37 quarterback hurries.
“It’s not just the sack numbers, it’s the pressure they’re putting on the quarterback, making them uncomfortable, getting quarterbacks off their spot, not allowing quarterbacks to step into their throws at times,” Donald said a few days after the line pressured Seattle Seahawks quarterback Sam Darnold into four interceptions. “I think that’s the way you want to impact the game as a pass rusher.”
Grier and his former linemates did that and more after he was traded to the Rams by the New York Giants in 1963.
Being a part of the Fearsome Foursome was “an incredible experience,” he said, noting that the players became close friends off the field as well.
Rams linebacker Jared Verse celebrates with defensive end Kobie Turner after a late defensive stand during a win over the Indianapolis Colts at SoFi Stadium on Sept. 28.
(Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times)
“We truly cared about each other and we wanted to see each one of us individually and collectively be successful as a defensive line, and again on and off the field … that being one of our main strengths,” he said.
The Rams’ young group has played very well and is improving every game, said Grier, a minister and philanthropist who also has been a singer and actor.
As they move forward in their careers, it will be important to “stay in shape” in more than a physical sense.
“Mentally, physically, spiritually, and emotionally,” Grier said. “To remember that it takes each one of them.”
How long the Rams can keep the group together remains to be seen.
Unlike the 1960s, teams must adhere to a salary cap and players can take full advantage of free agency.
“We want to be able to take advantage of every moment that we get together because, like it or not, this probably won’t always be the group that’s here forever.”
— Braden Fiske, Rams defensive end, on maximizing the potential of the team’s pass rush
Young and Turner are eligible for extensions after this season. Fiske and Verse will be eligible after next season, though the Rams have a fifth-year option on Verse, the 19th player selected in the 2024 draft.
“We want to be able to take advantage of every moment that we get together,” Fiske said, “because, like it or not, this probably won’t always be the group that’s here forever.”
The group is motivated by that thought, Verse said.
“We go out to practice like, ‘We got to make this last. Don’t know how long this is going to go,’” he said. “Hopefully, we can play with each other our whole careers. But the more sacks [Young] gets, the more tackles Kobie gets, the more dominant plays Fiske has, the more I do, the chance goes lower.”
The Rams, however, have plenty of salary-cap space the next few years. They will have nearly $90 million in 2026 and are projected to have the second-most cap in the league in 2027, according to Overthecap.com.
Rams linebacker Byron Young (0) and defensive end Braden Fiske pressure Seattle Seahawks quarterback Sam Darnold during a Rams victory on Nov. 16 at SoFi Stadium.
(Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times)
Receiver Puka Nacua is on track for a massive extension after this season, but the Rams have the budget to potentially keep the defensive line together.
“There’s no, ‘All right, I’ve made it,’” Turner said. “There’s still so much to prove, so much to show. You combine that hunger with the camaraderie, with the way that we just love being out there together and playing the game all together — that’s something that’s dangerous.”
In the tradition of the Fearsome Foursome and other legendary lines such as the Minnesota Vikings’ “Purple People Eaters,” the Pittsburgh Steelers’ “Steel Curtain” and the Dallas Cowboys’ “Doomsday Defense” among others, Rams linemen said they have playfully discussed nicknames of their own.
“They had their time, and now we have our time to make a name,” Young said.
There have been many suggestions, the players said. But none that has yet to be adopted.
“If one shows up that’s really nice,” Turner said, “then we’ll rock with it.”